fresh install of xbmc will not load. it crashes right away.

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Nobody is going to download a log file so not sure why you keep posting these links
This was explained to you last time you posted them by crzen

If you want to post a log,follow the instructions in my sig below

Post the link from xbmclogs.com :)
 
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bmike1

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I'll get to it tomorrow. it is night timr here and the computer is in another bedroom.
 

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Nobody is going to download a log file so not sure why you keep posting these links
This was explained to you last time you posted them by crzen

If you want to post a log,follow the instructions in my sig below

Post the link from xbmclogs.com :)
Goofy me...... Just realized that I can't follow your instructions as xbmc will not start.
 

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Where did you get the logs from in your other links?
Just get the log manually and copy it to xbmclogs.com and put the link here
 
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Ok cool,hopefully someone will see it who can help

Just out of interest what device are you using? Are you sure you have the correct build on it when you say you have put a different operating system on it?
 

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Ok cool,hopefully someone will see it who can help

Just out of interest what device are you using? Are you sure you have the correct build on it when you say you have put a different operating system on it?
I installed it the same way as I've installed it before on the same device. PC running linux= apt-get install xbmc
thanks for pointing out how to to post my log
 

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bmike1 a couple of things
1) your running mint 12. thats an old one and you might find the new mint 16 (or even 16 mate) works a little better for you. if you have a spare dvdrw laying around try and see if the pc will handle it before installing.
2) the version of xbmc in synaptic is 12.0. there are issues with anything less than gotham beta3 and some github repos which cause xbmc to crash on linux. .org has said they are not going to fix frodo for this issue. their solution is to change your OS to ubuntu 13.10(mint 16) or above and use the unstable ppas to install gotham beta3+ or nightlies as there will be no stable release availible that doesnt have this problem until gotham is finally released.

you can install the unstable ppa's through this link: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_for_Linux
But they wont work for mint 15 and lower.

alternatly you can try this work around. It will stop the startup crash, the addons will work, but the effected repos wont be able to update and it might crash if you try to tell the addon to check for updates.:
1) type this command into terminal
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find . -name 'addon.xml' -exec grep -Hn github {} \; | grep /raw/
2) create a folder in ~/.xbmc/addons and move all repository.* folders in the ~/.xbmc/addons folder that are in the result of that commad into the new folder you created.
3) keep an eye on the forum for those addons to see if the hub devs can find a real solution for the issue

hope this helps
 
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bmike1

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thank you so much. first I installed 14 and it didn't work. the reason I have 12 running is that it is the last cd version. I will install Mint16. I am sure you found this out for me.... could you teach me how you found this out? it is funny, I have xbmc running happily on a mint12 box that I set up around dec. I wonder if there is a way to install that version of xbmc. I think they should see the importance of getting it to run on old hardware so that we can resurrect old hardware. the computer that is running mint 12 is over ten years old and does not have a dvd drive---- hence the necessity of mint 12. I'm going to try installing gotham on mint12 tomorrow to see if I can. if that doesn't work I'll put 16 on it (it has a dvd drive even though it too is over 10 years old).
 
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If you dont have a dvd drive you could always try to install from a usb stick: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/744 just make sure its 2gb or bigger.

As for the github issue I figured that out the morning it happened by moving all the folders and putting them back one by one lol.

The main problem is in an OS file called gnutls. it has a bug in it that pre-beta xbmc cant deal with (an error catching bug). So when it hits the OS bug (made appearant by the github change) instead of trapping the error, marking the repo as empty, and moving on to the next repo (like happens in windows,mac,android,ect...) it just crashes. They fixed this in the gotham betas by telling xbmc to use another file called openssl first (as can be seen here: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc-packaging/commit/2a094016d0b3158700ac3aa42db8f9007e391fa8) which works fine.

You could prob run gotham on mint 12. But you would have to dl the source code for the beta and then compile it yourself which admittingly I am not the greatest at doing.
Or you could try putting those same changes into frodo and then recompile it (which I havent tried yet).
 
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bmike1

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you know..... I just looked at the at the mint D/L page and see they give you the option to D/L the ISO without multimedia. I think this is the ISO that fits on a CD. Multimedia support is then downloadable. As for the USB stick option I don't think his computer boots from USB. I know my computer from that period of time doesn't. I'll check the BIOS later after I D/L mint16
 

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cool. I looked for the cd version but didnt see it. thats why i posted about the usb stick option lol
 

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oops... I was wrong. no cd version. I figured the one w/o the codecs was the one (it was in mint12). Sorry for the confusion. Do you know if there is a way to install it from the internet?
 

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Well I cant say that there isnt, but its not the best way and not recommended. With that said you can take a look at this page:
http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2
Look at c2 for package upgrades. But read the pros and cons on it. Finding a way to do a fresh install would be better.
 
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bmike1

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I'm pretty sure there is a way to do a fresh install of an operating system over a network. And after all.... that is all the internet is; a giant network.
 

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alternatly you can try this work around. It will stop the startup crash, the addons will work, but the effected repos wont be able to update and it might crash if you try to tell the addon to check for updates.:
1) type this command into terminal
Code:
find . -name 'addon.xml' -exec grep -Hn github {} \; | grep /raw/
2) create a folder in ~/.xbmc/addons and move all repository.* folders in the ~/.xbmc/addons folder that are in the result of that commad into the new folder you created.
3) keep an eye on the forum for those addons to see if the hub devs can find a real solution for the issue

hope this helps
I was wondering.... what does an update in the repo mean anyways. what does it do?
also:
I can't get into the room with the computer we are concerned with so I ran your command on this computer/

find . -name 'addon.xml' -exec grep -Hn github {} \; | grep /raw/
./.xbmc/addons/repository.TheYid/addon.xml:4: <info compressed="false">https://github.com/TheYid/My-Repo/raw/master/addons.xml</info>
./.xbmc/addons/repository.TheYid/addon.xml:5: <checksum>https://github.com/TheYid/My-Repo/raw/master/addons.xml.md5</checksum>
./.xbmc/addons/repository.TheYid/addon.xml:6: <datadir zip="true">https://github.com/TheYid/My-Repo/raw/master/zips</datadir>
./.xbmc/addons/repository.eldorado/addon.xml:4: <info compressed="false">https://github.com/Eldorados/eldorado-xbmc-addons/raw/master/addons.xml</info>
./.xbmc/addons/repository.eldorado/addon.xml:5: <checksum>https://github.com/Eldorados/eldorado-xbmc-addons/raw/master/addons.xml.md5</checksum>
./.xbmc/addons/repository.eldorado/addon.xml:6: <datadir zip="true">https://github.com/Eldorados/eldorado-xbmc-addons/raw/master/repo/</datadir>

so in this example I would move:

./.xbmc/addons/repository.TheYid/addon.xml and ./.xbmc/addons/repository.eldorado/addon.xml

I was also given some other advise:

Better to use Software Manager and get the version specific to the distribution you are running.

How would I do that?
 

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OK, first things first. The software manager will probably only get you to xbmc version 12.0. if you install the ppa for the stable xbmc it should give you version 12.2. If you can upgrade to Mint 13 it will give you 12.3.
Mint 13 is a long term support relese (LTS) its supported until 2017. The others except for 16 are already no longer supported with updates and bug fixes ect... Since you cant install mint 16 this might be the way to go.
Check this page:
http://www.linuxmint.com/oldreleases.php

For stable xbmc releases check this page:
https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ppa

I also just noticed that you can intstall gotham rc-1 for mint 13 from the unstable ppas (I didnt see that before. I apologise)
Check this page:
https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/unstable

To install the ppa open a terminal and type these commands entering your password as needed:
Code:
sudo echo
sudo apt-get install python-software-properties pkg-config
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
For stable type this:
Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa
For unstable type this:
Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/unstable
Then type this:
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install xbmc
That installs the correct and "newest" version for your linux OS

If you can, upgrade to 13 and install the unstable ppa for gotham rc-1. The crashing should stop and the repos update the right way. Everything above gotham beta 3 should work fine if you can find one for your version of Mint/Ubuntu. It also might be upgradeable to the final gotham release whenever it comes out.

If you cant upgrade to 13 or 16, or if its still crashing, then goto /home/<username>/.xbmc/addons and create a folder.
From your command output copy/paste the folders:
repository.TheYid
repository.eldorado
into that new folder and delete the originals.
This will stop the crashing but those repos and addons wont get updated for new features and fixes and such.

hope this helps
 
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